Necessary Car Shopping with COFL

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 08/15/2019 at 11:43 • Filed to: None

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So, it’s been nearly a week. We have some replacements in mind, what does Oppo think? Input on the Impreza or Golf Spert wagoon?

The Front Runners:

New Mazda 3 hatch in this blue. Yum yum. Pros: SO NICE | Cons: Most Expensive

2018 Mazda 3 GT Sport in Soul Red. Pros: Fully loaded, new. | Cons: Ugly, no AWD.

2018 Mazda CX-3 GT in Soul Red. Pros: Didn’t we own one of these? | Cons: Easy to steal

The Middle of the Pack

2018 Subaru Impreza. Pros: AWD, Hatch | Cons: Meh

2019 Hyundai Elantra GT. Pros: Good value and features. | Cons: Wifey no likey

2018-19 VW Golf Sportwagon Pros: Wagon | Cons: VW

Shit you lot have sent me

Stop tempting me to make poor decisions!

vondon302 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:48

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Mazda 3 gets my vote.

SWEENEE > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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https://www.lesterglennmazda.com/new/Mazda/2019-Mazda-Mazda3-939f44110a0e0ae847bd028f08429329.htm

For Sweden > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/777458980/overview/

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > vondon302 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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2018 or 2019?

Aremmes > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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All of the Mazdas will be equally easy to steal since they all use the same keyless entry hardware.

How much are Regal TourXs going for over there?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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Try harder:

way2blu does a rev update > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:49

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If they sold the Wagon local to you, find a 3.6L AWD one and enjoy far lower running costs than the bimmer or Benz...

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > For Sweden 08/15/2019 at 11:50

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I thought about it. but I worry about the volvo curse

Tripper > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:51

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As you may have heard I just bought an Alltrack. So I can answer any GSW related questions. I love it thus far. It is much “nicer” than anything else you’ve listed. I got mine new with a six year warranty, so no VW worries there. VW does not scare me anyway though, cars break . I’ve owned at least one out of warranty BMW M car for the last 12 years.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:51

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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Aremmes 08/15/2019 at 11:51

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$0.00

we don’t get the TourX in Canada.

And yeah, I know about the Mazdas,.  I would guess all keyless cars are probably the same 

nerd_racing > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:51

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The cons on the CX3 made me giggle slightly. Some joy came from the bad situation. I’m pretty bummed it got stolen, I know it was well liked in your household.

For Sweden > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:51

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The curse of being desirable and awesome?

Sovande > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:54

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I have had 7 Volvos with a combined 1, 140,000 miles or an average of 165,000 miles. The lowest mileage i have owned is m y current V60 with 55,000 miles. The most miles was 280,000. I’m not sure what curse you mean!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:55

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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:57

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Get the new 3. Your wife is a hard-workin’ partner and just had her car jacked.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 11:58

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Arrivederci > Tripper 08/15/2019 at 11:58

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This.  The 2018 GSW would have that massive warranty, so if it has any “VW” problems, they’ll be covered for years.

Arrivederci > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:01

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The M272 in the Merc is generally reliable post 2008 and pre 2012 . Early ones had balance shaft issues and the 2012+ ones had more power but suffer from the challenges of early DI engines.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:02

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Cons: Easy to steal

LOL

Milky > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:03

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The new 3 interior is where its at.  Just maybe put the keys as far away from the front door as possible.  

Jewish Stig > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:04

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I would say cx3 again, you were happy with it, weren’t you?

Just try and look for ine without a keyless system

Or maybe put some extra security measures like a wheel lock or something

OPPOsaurus WRX > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:05

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https://vancouver.craigslist.org/nvn/cto/d/west-vancouver-2001-audi-allroad/6956231829.html

vondon302 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:05

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The cheap one.

;)

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:13

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Good gawd that blind spot.

facw > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:15

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Automatic Forte?

412GTI > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:16

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Last week must’ve been bad on CX-3's, my co-worked had hers totaled by a drunk guy in a stolen truck. She replaced it with a Cherokee, I suspect you won’t want one of those ha!

My vote is Sportwagon as they’re just a little bigger than a CX-3 or 3. Although, the new 3 is quite nice feeling , the price makes my eyes water a bit with its meh powertrain. Old 3 is too old imo.

His Stigness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:16

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You should definitely consider the Golf. If you buy now you’ll be able to take advantage of the 6 year/72,000 mile warranty. No one else even comes close to that.

Also, don’t believe everything you’ve read on the internet. Modern VWs are actually quite reliable. Don’ dismiss it. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > facw 08/15/2019 at 12:18

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maybe...

Captain of the Enterprise > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:19

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Crosstrek to spice up the Impreza? 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Captain of the Enterprise 08/15/2019 at 12:22

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“too big” for my wife

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:22

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Wifey-no-likey is the biggest barrier I’ve seen.

Go for a new Mazda 3.

Captain of the Enterprise > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:25

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But the Impreza is okay? It’s just taller right?

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:25

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I have a completely rebuilt 1994 Voyager.

It’s already setup for off road use when needed, has loads of room, is extremely reliable, and is 10s of 1000s of dollars cheaper than anything you listed.

Alternatively, if you insist on stock comfort, maybe my 1992 with 73k would be the better choice.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:25

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Aren’t they the same car? One just lacks the mild lift?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Captain of the Enterprise 08/15/2019 at 12:27

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man, I just work here. lol

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Captain of the Enterprise 08/15/2019 at 12:27

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It is just an Impreza with a lift and larger tires. The 2.0 struggles to move those tires which is reason enough to me to go with the Impreza instead.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 08/15/2019 at 12:28

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Man, whatever she want’s she can have!  If she doesn’t get a good vibe from a car, that’s fine.

Chariotoflove > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:32

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So you want to get another Mazda, but without keyless entry. Problem solved:

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:36

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The current Impreza is actually really nice, way better than the dud that was the 2012-2016 cars. A 2019 Sport was my leading candidate before I tried a Corolla Hatch and my Mother and Grandmother love their 2019 and 2018 Crosstreks. They are nicely equipped from base model too, with all coming with AA, Carplay, a good stereo, etc even  on the lowest of trims. Eyesight is also an option available on any CVT equipped Impreza so you could have a stripper model with hubcap covered steelies and still have one of the best safety systems on the market.

Of course I only know what Subaru of America offers, it might work differently in Canada.

The Corolla Hatch is another one to look at. I’m not biased, I swear.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 08/15/2019 at 12:42

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The 2.0 struggles to move those tires which is reason enough to me to go with the Impreza instead.

Everyone keeps saying this, but I’ve been in a couple Crosstreks now and I’ve never found them lacking. I mean they’re no power house, but neither are most economy cars.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:42

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I get it, sometimes arguments like that just make me go:

CB > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:46

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You know what's cheaper than an AWD vehicle? Winter tires for a good FWD one.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > CB 08/15/2019 at 12:49

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Man, I have never personally driven an AWD car (I don’t think we need one) so I can confirm.

I think once we get her behind the wheel of some cars, things may change.  She has only ever driven the CX-3.

gettingoldercarguy > Chariotoflove 08/15/2019 at 12:54

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And it'll never start so it can't be stolen!  I kid, I kid.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 08/15/2019 at 12:54

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The Crosstrek isn’t an economy car though, it starts in the mid $20ks. It’s the least powerful car in it’s class and it’s noticeable at times.

gettingoldercarguy > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:55

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Mazda 3

shop-teacher > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:57

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“man, I just work here. lol”

Copy that!  

lone_liberal > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 12:58

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Eliminate the ones your wife doesn’t like and the ones you think are ugly or meh. Then from that list I’d go with either the new Mazda 3 hatch or the CX3. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Chariotoflove 08/15/2019 at 13:06

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Captain of the Enterprise > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 13:13

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Lol

Captain of the Enterprise > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 08/15/2019 at 13:14

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Right

Chariotoflove > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 08/15/2019 at 13:16

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Datsun is as Datsun does.

BeaterGT > vondon302 08/15/2019 at 13:40

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Same here, I think it’s the best looking of the three Mazdas too.  

Manny05x > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 14:38

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Dont likey the HRV??

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Manny05x 08/15/2019 at 14:39

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Nope

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > gettingoldercarguy 08/15/2019 at 14:52

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This is definitely the best security measure!

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 14:55

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What about a Civic? The New Civic is quite nice I think. A lot of car for the money at least. 

Tapas > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 15:01

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Get the new Mazda Hatch!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 08/15/2019 at 15:06

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I totally agree.  I presented that as an option.  She isn’t keen on the looks, but I think I will still try for a test drive.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Tapas 08/15/2019 at 15:12

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I really want us...uh her... to have one

someoneatacura > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 15:19

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They drive really nice too! Also, smartest cargo cover ever made .

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > vondon302 08/15/2019 at 15:28

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But make sure it had a manual. Even if theives  get in and get it started they probably won’t get very far, if they can get moving at all.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Arrivederci 08/15/2019 at 16:04

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276 is much more reliable than 272. 272's are fine, but they still have intake manifold, thermostat, and cam magnet issues. The most common 276 issues I see are cam adjusters on cars that consistently go 3k miles over on their services. 

vondon302 > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 08/15/2019 at 16:05

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This!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 16:05

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No stuparu. Of that boring list, 3GT. Ugly? Get your eyes checked buddy!

12 or newer GLK.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 08/15/2019 at 16:10

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What is the Crosstrek if not an economy car?

I mean a new Corolla starts at $19,000, I wouldn’t consider that anything but an economy car.

Same goes for the Civic, which starts at $19,550.

The Crosstrek starts at $21k, which IMO is just the premium you pay for full time AWD on your econobox.

It’s “power” is on par with both those vehicles in base trim, actually making 17 hp more than the base Corolla.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 08/15/2019 at 16:13

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Yeah man, I find them ugly!  Styling is to front heavy. 

Chariotoflove > gettingoldercarguy 08/15/2019 at 17:11

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I kid, I kid.

But only kinda. ;)

gettingoldercarguy > Chariotoflove 08/15/2019 at 17:14

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The truth hurts bad enough. I've  heard they make great track car/engines.

Chariotoflove > gettingoldercarguy 08/15/2019 at 17:18

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They do.  There are a host of reasons why the seals go, and reasonable ways to prevent that from happening in the newer engines.  In the end though, I wasn’t willing to spring for a new engine when mine lost compression out of warranty. My dad, however, did and is still loving his.

gettingoldercarguy > Chariotoflove 08/15/2019 at 17:21

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Nice, I used to race rx7s with rotary performance in Garland.  The rx8 would make a nice track toy

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 17:40

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Boo

Chariotoflove > gettingoldercarguy 08/15/2019 at 17:49

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I talked a fair bit with the guys at Rotary Performance when I was deciding whether to replace my engine. I learned a lot from them. I believe with a new engine and extra oil pump, I could have fixed all my problems and enjoyed the car for a good long time more for not unreasonable money. But by that time I’d been driving it for 13 years, and I wanted to try something else. If I were to track it, I might have kept it as a daily driver that is also fun to thrash .

gettingoldercarguy > Chariotoflove 08/15/2019 at 17:51

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Yeah, you probably talked to Chris?  Ari doesn't or didn't do a lot to of the front desk stuff.

Chariotoflove > gettingoldercarguy 08/15/2019 at 17:56

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I guess? He talked about how he set up his wife’s car (if I’m remembering everything correctly) , a 2004 auto like mine. Very helpful and easy to talk to.

AdverseMartyr > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 19:00

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So... won’t all the Mazdas have the same issue of being easy to steal?

Under_Score > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 20:54

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Did they not find the CX-3? Those are somewhat uncommon cars. If they do find it, why don’t you want it back?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Under_Score 08/15/2019 at 20:58

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No they have not found it yet. Because theft recovery vehicles are fucked up usually. Insurer's don't inspect mechanicals and it shows on the Carfax as a theft recovery

vicali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 21:10

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Buy the first one, the blue3, life is too short to drive a dumb car you don’t like.. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > vicali 08/15/2019 at 21:30

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Im so poor though

Under_Score > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/15/2019 at 21:59

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If you’re planning on keeping it for a while, that may not be a blemish. My two serious wrecks with my RAV4 are motivation to hold onto it for a while, as dealers wouldn’t want to touch it. My friend had his Endeavor stolen a few years ago and they recovered it in a few days. There was a rap CD inside, but nothing else seemed messed up. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Under_Score 08/15/2019 at 22:21

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Nah, I don't want to keep it long as it is